Tradition One
The darling of the Nasibi movement Qadhi Mazhar Husayn in his book 
‘Ham Matam kyo nahee kartay’ [Why do not we perform mourning] said:
Imam Ja’far Sadiq (as) has said that patience and hardships, 
both comes to the believer, hence on the appearance of hardships, he 
exhibit patience and adversities impatience comes to kafir hence on the 
appearance of adversities, he exhibits signs of Jaza’
Al-Kafi, Volume 3 page 223
Al-Kafi, Volume 3 page 223
Reply
The Nasibi does not know the true meaning of ‘patience’ – its is 
Nasibi perception that those who stay quite during grief and hardships 
and refraining from wailing and crying are considered patient. The 
reality is that wailing and crying does not negate the concept of 
patience while complaining and holding Allah (swt) responsible for the 
adversities during hardships constitutes impatience, i.e. commenting on 
an act due to a lack of knowledge is impatience.
The story of Musa (as) and Khider (as) mentioned in Qur’an serves as a
 proof for our notion. As Musa (as) asked Khider (as) that He wanted to 
go with him and wanted to learn the things which Khider (as) had learnt 
from Ilm-e-Ladunni. Khider (as) told Musa (as) that He didn’t possess 
patience and how would he endure a matter that he lacked knowledge of. 
Prophet Musa (as) told him that “Inshallah”, he will find Khider (as) 
enduring and would not oppose anything Khider (as) did. Despite this, 
when Khider (as) made an hole in the boat and Khider (as) said that 
hadn’t, Khider (as) said he failed to maintain patience. The same reply 
was given to Musa (as) by Khider (as) when he (as) commented on the 
killing of servant by Khider (as). The verse proves that lack of ‘Sabr’ 
involves commenting on mater that you lack knowledge of.
In the eyes of Ulema, the definition of patience is that the ‘self’ 
shall not indulge in an unsound act. True patience is that exhibited in 
war, and refers to not fleeing the battlefield.
The terms ‘Sabr’ [patience] means not to complain about Allah (swt) 
before any other than God. We have the example of Prophet Yaqub (as) who
 maintained this high level of patience even after his lamentation. as 
he complained about his adversities to Allah (swt) as we have already 
mentioned.
Unless someone issues a complaint at adversities to persons other 
than Allah (swt), merely weeping and chest beating does not fall under 
the category of impatience.
The tradition makes no reference to the prohibition of mourning etc 
rather the condition of two classes are being discussed that a believer 
is he who stands firm on his iman and his endurance is unshakable whilst
 a Kâfir complains and holds Allah responsible for his calamity and 
suffering and hence shows impatience.
During the pre Islamic era, it was the tradition of these people to 
wail and cry at adversities blaming all on Taqdir, they would recite 
poetry wherein they commented on the wisdom of Allah and how they 
exhibited impatience. The same thing has been mentioned in this 
tradition. To advance a weak Hadeeth and twist in effort to prove that 
mourning for Imam Husayn (as) is Haraam is fitting of these Nawasib.
Tradition Two – The Definition of Jaza
Jabir said: ‘I asked Abu Jaffar (as) about the grief (Jaza). 
He replied: ‘The climax of grief is to scream and woe, beating the 
cheek, face, chest and pulling the hair. Whoever made a mourning 
assembly verily he abandoned patience and followed the other way but 
whoever was patient and mentioned Allah and praised him, verily he is 
pleased by Allah’s will, therefore he will be rewarded by Allah. But 
whoever doesnt do this, he will be judged and he is condemned and Allah 
will not reward him’
Furu al-Kafi, Volume 1 page 121
Bihar al-Anwar, Volume 79 page 89
Furu al-Kafi, Volume 1 page 121
Bihar al-Anwar, Volume 79 page 89
Reply One – The tradition has been graded as weak
Allamah Majisi in his book Mirat al-Uqool, Volume 14 page 181 has declared it a weak tradition.
Reply Two
Even for the sake of discussion we suppose the tradition was 
authentic, than the only meaning which we get from this is to mourn 
while going out of the mentioned limits is impatience and illegitimate. 
In pre Islamic age people during the adversities and when confronted by 
clamities, used to wail and cry and create poetries based on 
inappropriate words for Allah (swt) and the condemnation we just read in
 the tradition is for the very absurd customs. But in the Azadari of 
Imam Husayn (as) maintains the high prestige of Allah (swt), we don’t 
commit any blasphemy against Allah (swt) and our lamentation would not 
be defined by our Imam (as) as Jaza. When it comes to Imam Husayn (as) 
such mourning is valid and legitimate! The Shi’a do not conduct Azadari 
for ordinary people, we reserve it for Imam Husayn (as), these acts are 
in accordance with dictates of the Qur’an and Sunnah.
Tradition Three
al-Kafi, Volume 3 page 224
Reply
Allamah Majisi in his book Mirat al-Uqool, Volume 14 page 183 has 
declared it a weak tradition. On the contrary, we read the following 
statement which is considered to be the words of Imam Abu Abdullah [as]:
وقد شققن الجيوب ولطمن الخدود الفاطميات على الحسين بن علي عليهما السلام، وعلى مثله تلطم الخدود وتشق الجيوب.
“The Fatimi women tore the front opening of their shirts and 
beat their cheeks over Hussain bin Ali (as) and to do this for some one 
like him, it is permissible to beat the cheek and tear the front opening
 of the shirt”.
Tahdib al-Ahkam, Volume 8 page 325
Tahdib al-Ahkam, Volume 8 page 325
Moreover we read in authentic Sunni work Mishkat al Masabih that when
 an adversity affects a Muslim, he suffers from despondency, even if he 
is injured by a thorn, Allah (swt) will eliminate his sins for him. 
Sunni traditions also record the act of our Prophet (s) striking his 
‘thighs’ which means this was his Sunnah, hence this tradition means 
nothing to us.
Tradition Four
Amro bin Abi al-Miqdam narrated that Abu Jaffar (as) said: ‘Do you know the meaning of Allah’s statement ‘{ and will not disobey you in what is good }’?
 I replied: ‘No’. He said: ‘The Prophet (s) said to Fatima (as): ‘If I 
died, do not strike your face, do not open your hair, do not scream and 
woe, do not invite the women to recite elegies and cry loudly”.
Al-Kafi, Volume 5 page 527
Al-Kafi, Volume 5 page 527
Reply One
This tradition is also weak. Please see Mirat al-Uqool, Volume 20, Page 358.
Reply Two
Had Prophet (s) prohibited Fatima al-Zahra (as) than she would have 
not lamented and mourned after Prophet (s)’s death. We read in Al Bidaya
 Wal Nahaya volume 5, page 243:
“When Prophet (s) died on the bed and the women who were around him (s) had made their faces red by beating their faces.”
If beating the faces was prohibited by Prophet (s) then why were 
those women opposing the instructions of Prophet (s)? It is obvious that
 Prophet (s)’s daughter Fatima Zahra (sa) was among those women she 
would have at least refrained from this Haraam act and instructed the 
other women to stop.
Tradition Five
Ibn Baboya has recorded from Imam Mohammad al-Baqir (as) that the Holy Prophet (s) bequeathed Fatima (sa) in following words.
“Fatima! When I die, don’t gripe your hair due to my 
separation, don’t disturb your hair and do not lament and do not mourn 
and do not call females who lament and scream.”
Jila Al-Ayun (Urdu translation) part 1, page 67, Published in Lucknow
Jila Al-Ayun (Urdu translation) part 1, page 67, Published in Lucknow
Reply
This tradition is the translation of the same tradition of al-Kafi 
which we discussed previously and which according to Shaykh Majlisi is a
 weak tradition, see Mirat ul Uqool, Volume 20, page 358.
Had the Holy Prophet (s) prohibited Fatima (sa) from the above 
mentioned acts, she would have never insisted on them and would have 
never preformed them, but besides the Shi’a books, even the Sunni books 
quote that Fatima (sa) cried, lamented and mourned over her father’s 
death. We read in Mishkat , Bab al Karbaat Fazal, Volume 1, page 336 
that Fatima Zahra (sa) recited the a complete elegy that can also be 
found in Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, page 641. Shiekh Abdul Haq Muhadith 
Dehalvi while mentioning the grievious atmosphere after Prophet’s death 
recorded in his authority work Madarij un Nabuwat, Volume 2 pages 
753-754 (Madina Publishing Co. Karachi):
“After the burial of the Prophet [s], the companions in a 
state of sorrow were virtually throwing dust of yearning and shame over 
their lives and living, and were burning and crying due to being 
separated from their beloved of the world and the hereafter. Especially 
Fatima [ra] was the most aggrieved, the loneliest and was crying and 
wailing the most, she was looking at the faces of her sons Imam Hasan 
[ra] and Imam Hussein [ra] and was crying at their plight and herself 
being orphaned. At the other side Ayesha in the same apartment where 
Holy Prophet [s] had passed away, was continuously crying and wailing. 
Days and nights the voices of crying and mourning rose from this house 
which became house of grief [Bait ul Huzn] and separation.”
Madarij un Nabuwat, Volume 2, Page 753 & 754
Madarij un Nabuwat, Volume 2, Page 753 & 754
Tradition Six
Imam Husayn (as) said to Lady Zaynab (as) at Karbala:
O’ Sister! By the right that I have on you. Be patient on my 
separation, and when I get killed do not beat yourself and do not gripe 
your hair, you are the daughter of Fatima e Zahra (sa), show patience 
the way she showed on the death of Holy Prophet (s).
Jila Al-Ayun (translated) Chapter of ‘Qazaaha e Karbala’ page 382
Jila Al-Ayun (translated) Chapter of ‘Qazaaha e Karbala’ page 382
Reply One – This is a sole narration
This is one of the traditions of “Ahaad” (Plural of Ahad, which means
 one). There no such comprehension or perception in ‘Jila ul Ayoon’ the 
compiler of Jila ul Ayoon himself has mentioned on the very first page 
that there are some weak references in this book, other then that we can
 perceive that these words have been said for consolation.
Reply Two – Imam Husayn (as) sought this pledge as a means of consoling his distraught sister
In Minhaj al Sunnah, Volume 4 page written by Ibn Tamiyah in his 
discussion on the verses in the Cave, opines that the terms ‘La-takhzun’
 (an order not to do some thing) is not always used to prohibit an 
action but it can also be used for consolation and satisfaction.
If Ibn Tamiyah al-Nasibi takes the Quranic order not to weep, as a 
consolation, for this forty year old man, then the same applies to 
Sayyida Zaynab (as) who was after all a modest lady. Her brothers, sons 
and relatives had been martyred brutally by the ancestors of the present
 day Nawasib, she was situate in unfamiliar terrain thousands of miles 
away from her home, the enemy were encircling around the camps of the 
Imam (as), only one able bodied male protector remained and even he was 
preparing for his martyrdom. If under these circumstances Imam Husayn 
(as) had ordered Sayyida Zaynab (as) not to weep then this order was not
 an compulsory order but it was for her consolation and satisfaction as 
appears in the following verses of Quran:
wa la-takhzun alay him wa la tak fee zaka mima yum koroon
“And grieve not for them and be not distressed because of what they plan” (027.070)
“And grieve not for them and be not distressed because of what they plan” (027.070)
This order (not to be disappointed) descended as a source of consolation.
If we compare the circumstances faced by Sayyida Zaynab (as) to that 
faced by Abu Bakr then there is a world of difference between the two. 
Let us give an example:
“A young teenager is killed in a road accident. Friends and 
relatives attend the home of the deceased sop as to console his parents.
 The mother of the child is completely overcome with grief she is 
slapping her face, wailing, in such circumstances it is common in Muslim
 culture her elders to comfort he, embrace her and tell her to calm 
down, stop crying”
The action of these elders does NOT mean that her mourning is Haraam;
 they are simply saying this to console her. Imam Husayn (as) had 
likewise sought this pledge from his sister as a means of consoling her,
 she was already witnessing a horrific scene dead bodies of all her 
family members were in front of her that included the bodies of her 
sons, brothers and nephews she has lost all that she held dear.
On the other hand Abu Bakar was a male, he was sitting in a safe 
place in the company of Apostle of Allah, all his family was safe in his
 native area, no dead body of any of his beloved was in front of him, 
under these circumstances act of weeping was timidity for a male so if 
such a man was asked “not to weep” then it was not for his consolation 
and satisfaction but it was to act upon in true sense.
Reply Three – Imam Husayn (as) demanded this pledge because his sister had to remain firm to face up to the impending challenges that she would encounter in the hours that followed
From a cultural perspective it is common for one’s family elders to 
seek to console a bereaved relative at their loss, they will comfort 
them with soothing words, provide reassurance, offer a glass of water, 
hug them - Sayyida Zaynab (as) had no such ‘elders’ to comfort her for 
her loss during her hour of need, no one was at hand to console her and 
tell her to remain calm or offer her a glass of water, it was her duty
 to remain firm and have a clear head, and she had to do it herself, as 
she had taken the reigns as the elder and head of the family, remember 
Imam Zain-ul-Abideen (as) was in no such position to do this due to his 
poor state of health, all the responsibility was thrust onto her 
shoulders.  If Imam Paak (as) had demanded this of her, it was because 
he knew the role she was to play after him, and she would not be able to
 do so, had she entered into a state of shock / post traumatic stress on
 account of all that she had witnessed.  Shock would have brought with 
it an inability to do anything, she would have in effect remained 
juxtaposition at one place incapable of doing anything save mourn at 
what over the horrors that she was witnessed.  Sayyida Zainab (as) loved
 her brother so intensely, just hearing that his martyrdom was pending 
caused her to lose her senses, as can be evidenced by Ibn Kathir who 
states that:
When the forces of Yazeed planned to attack the camp of Imam 
Husayn, Zainab came to Imam Husayn and asked that why was there so much 
noise outside their tents, Imam replied that I just dreamt of Holy 
Prophet (s) and he said that you will be meeting me tomorrow, hearing 
this Zainab started crying and hitting herself on the face.
Al Bidaya wal Nahaya Volume 8, Page 176, printed in Beirut
Al Bidaya wal Nahaya Volume 8, Page 176, printed in Beirut
In the same book a bit further it is mentioned that:
Zainab heard the elegies from Imam, reflecting the tragedy of
 Karbala and the Martyrdom of Imam Husayn she cried, lamented and beat 
herself on the head until she fainted.
Al Bidaya wal Nihaya Volume 8, Page 177, printed in Beirut
Al Bidaya wal Nihaya Volume 8, Page 177, printed in Beirut
When Sayyida (as) was grieving in such an extreme manner whilst her 
brother was with her, it was clear to the Imam (as) that her reaction 
would be far more severe after him, which enables us to understand and 
appreciate why the Imam (as) took the pledge from his sister at about 
the same time in the Shia tradition under discussion.  Had Sayyida 
Zaynab (as) entered into a state of extreme grief and lost her senses 
[as she had done whilst the Imam (as) was alive] during the crucial 
hours that followed the martyrdom of Imam Hussain (as) who would have 
gathered the women and children together over the hours that followed 
when the camps of her family were plundered and set alight? Who would 
have co-ordinated the evacuation of the grieving widows and children as 
the tents were being burned?  Who would have remonstrated with Ibn Sad 
on behalf of the ladies insisting that water be distributed forthwith?  
Sayyida Zaynab (as) had to maintain her composure and remain astute despite the tragedy that had befallen her.
Reply Four – This will was time limited, and Syeda Zainab (as) recognised it as such
This very much connects to reply two, the mantle that Sayyida Zaynab 
(as) was about to take on in the hours that followed the martyrdom of 
the Imam was one that could only be conducted by one with a clear head. 
 The Imam (as) was seeking to pledge from his sister (as) composure to 
deal with the aftermath of his martyrdom for those hours, it was hence a
 time limited order.  Sayyida Zaynab (as) likewise recognised that it 
was time limited; she understood it and interpreted it as, for we have 
examples of her after the day of the martyrdom losing her senses, and 
partaking in extreme acts of grief.  The very same book authored by 
Majlisi informs us that Zaynab (sa) upon catching sight of Imam Husayn 
(as)’s blessed head, hit her forehead on to the camel’s saddle and it 
started bleeding, and she lamented.
Jila Al-Ayun, page 311
Jila Al-Ayun, page 311
It’s also said that When Zaynab (sa) saw Imam Husayn (as) head in the
 court of Yazeed she took off her veil, and lamented in a unbearable 
manner and said “Oh! Husayn, Oh! Husayn.”
Who understands the order of Imam Husayn (as) better, todsy’s Nasabi 
Mullah or Sayyida Zainab (as) the receipient of the order?  She 
certainly did not take it as a blanket ban on her mourning the loss of 
her brother, she deemed a temporary restriction, so as to competently 
lead on protecting her family following the immediate aftermath of her 
brother’s martyrdom.
Whilst Nawasib might seek to reject this as it is a Shia source, we 
can cite a reference from a scholar from their own camp, Ibn Kathir who 
records that when Umer Ibn Sa`d dispatched the women who were in the 
camps of Imam Husayn [as]:
“..They were made to sit on the camels, when they passed by 
the battlefield, they saw Imam Hussein (as) and his companions, the 
women started crying and shouting and Zaynab did Nudba for her brother 
and said:
“O Muhammad (s)! O Muhammad (s)! May Allah and the angels on 
the heavens send blessings on you; Hussain (s) is lying on the ground 
blood-tangled with his organs cut-off, O Muhammad (s)! Your daughters 
have been made captives and your progeny is killed and lying on the 
ground with the wind blowing dust onto their bodies.”
The narrator says: “By God! Zaynab made every friend and enemy cry.”
Qarat bin Qais narrates that when the women passed by the killed, they cried and started hitting their faces.
1) Al Bidaya wal Nahaya, Volume 8, page 1091
2) Tareekh e Tabari, volume 7, page 370
3) Tareekh e Kamil, volume 4, page 42
1) Al Bidaya wal Nahaya, Volume 8, page 1091
2) Tareekh e Tabari, volume 7, page 370
3) Tareekh e Kamil, volume 4, page 42
The confirmation of a staunch Sunni and biased historian like Ibn 
Kathir shall suffice as proof that the pledge made by Sayyida Zaynab 
(as) was time limited. Now if it is said that earlier two proofs of 
mourning were before the last will of Imam Husayn (as) then the example 
of mourning after the 
tragedy where Sayyida Zaynab (as) was also present is also mentioned 
above, reported from Qarat bin Qais. Further more in the books of both 
the sects the elegies are quoted which were recited by the women of 
Ahl’ulbayt (as) after the tragedy ofKarbala. The lamentation and elegies
 of Sayyida Zaynab (as) and Sayyida Umme Kulthum (as) prove that it was 
never prohibited and Imam’s will was just for consolation.
Reply Five – The same text has traditions wherein Sayyida Zaynab (as) mourned the loss of her brother
Had mourning (Azadari) not been permissible, the Ahl’ulbayt (as) 
would have never performed it. Its also quoted in ‘Jila ul Ayoon’ that 
after Imam Husayn’s (as), Zaynab (sa) and Ume e Kulthum (sa) mourned, 
lamented and recited elegies. Its also stated that when Zuljanah (Imam’s
 holy horse) came back towards the tents of the caravan, Um e Kulthum 
beat her head with her hands and repeatedly said “O’ Mohammad!(s)”.
From: Jila Al-Ayun, page 207
From: Jila Al-Ayun, page 207
Its is further said that when Zaynab (sa) saw Imam Husayn (as)’s holy
 head, she hit her forehead to the camel’s saddle and it started 
bleeding, and she lamented.
Jila Al-Ayun, page 311
Jila Al-Ayun, page 311
It’s also said that When Zaynab (sa) saw Imam Husayn (as) head in the
 court of Yazeed she took off her veil, and lamented in a unbearable 
manner and said “Oh! Husayn, Oh! Husayn.”
Reply Six – Sunni texts also record the fact that Sayyida Zaynab (as) mourned the loss of her brother
But these are Shi’a traditions, now lets provide references from 
Sunni books because if we give reference from ‘Maqtal e Muhnaf’ you 
would call it Shi’a, and if we give reference from ‘Yanabi al Muwaddat’ 
you would call it unauthentic, therefore have a tradition from your 
beloved Imam Ibn Katheer. He states that:
When the forces of Yazeed planned to attack the camp of Imam 
Husayn, Zainab came to Imam Husayn and asked that why was there so much 
noise outside their tents, Imam replied that I just dreamt of Holy 
Prophet (s) and he said that you will be meeting me tomorrow, hearing 
this Zainab started crying and hitting herself on the face.
Al Bidaya wal Nahaya Volume 8, Page 176, printed in Beirut
Al Bidaya wal Nahaya Volume 8, Page 176, printed in Beirut
In the same book a bit further it is mentioned that:
Zainab heard the elegies from Imam, reflecting the tragedy of
 Karbala and the Martyrdom of Imam Husayn she cried, lamented and beat 
herself on the head until she fainted.
Al Bidaya wal Nihaya Volume 8, Page 177, printed in Beirut
Al Bidaya wal Nihaya Volume 8, Page 177, printed in Beirut
Now the point is that Zaynab (as) performed these acts twice in the 
presence of the Imam Husayn (as) himself, and he didn’t stop her from 
doing that, which means there was nothing wrong with lamentation.
Tradition Seven – The Nasibi claim that the Shia weep for Imam Hussain (as) due to the curse of lady Zainab (as)?
The Nawasib of Sipah-e-Sahaba whilst trying their utmost to submit 
absurd excuses for not commemorating the injustices perpetrated by their
 forefathers against the Ahlulbayt (as) have at the same time sought to 
‘explain’ why the adherents of Ahlulbayt (as) do mourn for their 
suffering, the main argument being to seek penance for their failure to 
come to the aid of the Imam (as) during his hour of need. They seek to 
evidence their claim by highlighting the fact that the people of Kufa 
wept for not coming to the aid of Imam Hussain (as) to which lady Zainab
 (as) cursed them and stated that they would always weep for their sin 
of failing to help the grandson of Holy Prophet.  The sermon of Sayyida 
Zainab (as) has been recorded in the Shia book Amali by Sheikh Mufid, 
page 231:
All praise is exclusively for Allah, may blessing fall upon 
my father (grandfather), Muhammad, and upon his pure and benevolent 
family. And then, Oh people of Kufa! Oh deceitful and reneged people! Do
 you weep? May your tears never dry, not your groans end. … The 
consequences that you have brought upon yourselves are on account of 
your own doings, Allah became furious of you and you shall be eternally 
punished for it. Do you weep and cry? Yes, by Allah, do weep excessively
 and do laugh less! Since you have brought shame and fault upon 
yourselves and you will remain incapable of ever cleansing yourselves . 
…”   
The aforementioned words were spoken by Lady Zainab (as) when the 
army of Yazid took the women of Ahulbayt (as) captive through the Kufan 
streets; it was at this point that the people of Kufa gathered to watch 
them, whilst some wept.
Reply One: The Nasibi accusation is strictly against the teachings of Quran and in conformity with Judaism
By advancing such a notion the filthy Nawasib have the clear 
teachings of Holy Quran in abeyance in their hatred for the Shias whilst
 adopting that of Christianity. We read in Holy Quran, Surah 6 verse 
164:
 ”…and no soul earns (evil) but against itself, and no bearer of burden shall bear the burden of another”
Maudoodi in his footnote to the said verse in Tafheem al Quran makes it clear:
“Every person is responsible for whatever he does; and no one is responsible for the deeds of others.”
Similarly  we read in Surah Najm, verses 38-39 (Dr. Hilali  & Dr. Muhsin Khan):
“That no burdened person (with sins) shall bear the 
burden (sins) of another. And that man can have nothing but what he does
 (good or bad).”
Likewise we read in Surah Baqrah, verse 286 (Dr. Hilali  & Dr. Muhsin Khan):
“…Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets 
reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that 
(evil) which he has earned….”
And more clear are the verses 134 and 141 of Surah Baqrah (Dr. Hilali  & Dr. Muhsin Khan):
“That was a nation who has passed away. They shall 
receive the reward of what they earned and you of what you earn. And you
 will not be asked of what they used to do.”
This is all linked to the justice of Allah (swt). We are only 
adjudged for our deeds whatever others did, even if they are our blood 
relatives is irrelevant, the only sins that we carry are those committed
 by us.  If one is to (for arguments sake) adopt this approach can we 
therefore deduce that Muawiya and Yazeed were carrying the sin of their 
quean mother Hinda, something that will transfer through her descendants
 as infinitum?
If a particular generation or certain residents of Kufa during that 
particular era did a mistake or committed a great sin for that matter, 
it has no nexus with the Kufan residents of today. One should also not 
forget to point out that the Shiaism practiced today is not just 
restricted to the descendants of Kufa that failed to aid the Imam (as), 
it has millions of followers all over the globe 99% of them have no 
nexus whatsoever the past dwellers of Kufa, so whose sin are they 
carrying?
Such a belief has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, it is ironic 
that the Nawasib who insist Shiaism is an offshoot of a Jewish 
conspiracy, are actually advocating a Jewish belief, as can be evidenced
 from the following verses of the Bible’s Old Testament:
Exodus 20:5
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: 
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the 
fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them 
that hate me;
Exodus 34:7
7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and 
transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; 
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the 
children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
Numbers 14:18
18 The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving 
iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, 
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third 
and fourth generation.
Deuteronomy 5:9-10
9 …for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the 
iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth 
generation of them that hate me,
Job 4:8
8 Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.
In their efforts to defame the Shia, the Nawasib have stooped so low 
that they have even embraced Jewish teachings that conflict with Islam!
Reply Two: Lady Zainab (as) herself wept profusely for Imam Hussain (as)
If weeping for Imam Hussain (as) is nothing but the result of Lady 
Zainab’s (as) curse upon the people of Kufa then can the narrow-minded 
Nawasib explain why the great lady Zainab (as) herself wept for Imam 
Hussain (as)? The least that we can expect from Nawasib is that Lady 
Zainab (as) came under her own curse.  If Lady Zainab (as) said that the
 Kufans would cry ad infinitum, whilst crying profusely herself what is 
the difference between her and those she was cursing?
Reply Three: The Imams of Ahlulbayt (as) themselves mourned over the tragedy of Karbala
 If weeping for Imam Hussain (as) is nothing but the
 result of Lady Zainab’s (as) curse upon the people of Kufa then can the
 narrow-minded Nawasib explain why the subsequent Imams of Ahlulbayt 
(as) gave peculiar treatment to the month of Muahram and wept over the 
tragedy of Karbala?
See Chapter:
See Chapter:
We would like to quote just one tradition from the said chapter. It has been narrated from Imam Raza (as) who said:
Then he (Imam Raza) said: ‘My father (as) never used to smile
 when the month of Muharam would arrive and sadness was visible on his 
face until the tenth day of Muharram. When the tenth day used to come, 
it was the day of his ordeal, sadness and weeping and that was the day 
on which Hussain (as) was killed’.
Al-Amali, page 190
Reply Four: The Imams of Ahlulbayt (as) encouraged their adherents to mourn over the tragedy of Karbala and discussed the rewards for doing so
If mourning for Imam Hussain (as) carried a nexus with the alleged 
curse of Lady Zainab (as) then the later Imams (as) should have 
rigorously opposed partaking in any form of mourning for their slain 
grandfather, neither would they had mourned nor would they have 
encouraged their adherents to mourn, since doing so would in effect 
place them on par with the Kufans cursed by Lady Fatima (as).  The 
reality is they did no such thing; they mourned themselves as we showed 
in the previous reply and notified their adherents of the rewards for 
crying profusely for Imam Hussain (as). Here are some of those 
traditions:
Imam Baqir (as) said:
“He who remembers us, or in whose presence, we are 
remembered, and (as a result) sheds eyes, even though they may be in the
 measure of the wing of a mosquito, Allah shall construct for him a 
house in paradise and make these tears a barrier between him and the 
fire (of hell)”.
Al-Ghadeer, Volume 2 page 202
Al-Ghadeer, Volume 2 page 202
Similarly we read that Imam Raza (as) once said Ibn Shabib:
“O Son of Shabib! If it makes you happy (and you desire) to 
be with us in the elevated ranks of paradise, then be sad at our grief 
and happy at our happiness.”
Wasail al-Shiah, Volume 14 page 502
Wasail al-Shiah, Volume 14 page 502
 Similarly the Holy Prophet (s) said:
“O Fatimah! Every eye shall be weeping on the Day of Judgment
 except the eye which has shed tears over the tragedy of Husain (as) for
 surely, that eye shall be laughing and shall be given the glad tidings 
of the bounties and comforts of Paradise.”
Bihar al-Anwar, Volume 44 page 193
Bihar al-Anwar, Volume 44 page 193
We read in Yanabi al Mawaddah fil Qurba by Sheikh Suleiman Qandozi Balkhi al-Hanafi, page 398
“A narration in the Exegesis of Ali ibn Ibrahim from Imam 
Mohamed Baqar (as) says that he said: ‘My father Ali (as) s/o Husayn 
(as) said: ‘The person who weeps upon my father and his companions 
causing his tears to flow down his cheeks, shall receive from Allah a 
chamber in Paradise. Whomsoever remembers the calamities and 
heartbreaking incidents that my father and his companions faced in 
Karbala and weeps for them, Allah (swt) shall remove from him the 
intense pressure and excruciating pain of the Day of Judgment and shall 
keep him under his care and protection’’’.
We appeal to justice, if the Shia are mourning Imam Hussain (as) due 
to their being under an eternal unbreakable curse, how will their 
shedding tears serve a dual purpose, namely the ability to wipe away 
their sins, and enable them to enterParadise?  The fact that the Imams 
told their followers of the merits associated with mourning for the Imam
 (as), merits that included a guarantee of Paradise, proves that 
mourning for the fallen Imam (as) has no nexus with the curse of Syeda 
Zainab (as), and has everything to do with a desire to acquire the 
pleasure of the Ahlul bayt (as) in this world that will in turn be 
transferred into Paradise in the next one.
Reply Four: As per Nawasib those that the Prophet (s) cursed were blessed
 We read the following tradition in Sahih Muslim:
A’isha reported that two persons visited Allah’s Messenger and both of them talked about a thing, of which I am not aware, but that annoyed him and he invoked curse upon both of them and hurled malediction,
 and when they went out I said: Allah’s Messenger, the good would reach 
everyone but it would not reach these two. He said: Why so? I said: Because you have invoked curse and hurled malediction upon both of them.
 He said: Don’t you know that I have made condition with my Lord saying 
thus: O Allah, I am a human being and that for a Muslim upon whom I 
invoke curse or hurl malediction make it a source of purity and reward?Sahih Muslim, Book 032, Number 6285
 We appeal to justice, if a curse made by the Prophet (s) failed to 
affect a recipient rather it was automatically commuted into a source of
 blessing, how can it be argued that a curse by his blessed 
granddaughter was one that did not just affect the recipient but in 
facts transferred through their issues ad infinitum?
Reply Five: The narration is weak
 Whilst the above cited replies should suffice to 
silence the filthy children of Yazeed, we deem it apt to hit a final 
nail in the coffin by pointing out that the chain of the narration for 
the said sermon is weak since it contains Ismail Bin Rashid who was 
graded as ‘Unknown’ not only by Shia scholar Shahroodi 
(Mustadrakat Ilm Rijal al-Hadith, v1 p635) but also by the grand Salafi 
scholar Al-Albani (Erwa al-Ghalil, v6 p76).
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